The Challenger or The Perfectionist? Part 1 of 2 with Kirsten Powers, CNN Analyst [S02-025]


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Let’s face it…there’s a deep complexity to the Enneagram.  Yes, for some, it is extremely easy to nail down their type.  But for others…well, it’s more complicated.  Why?  First, everyone exhibits behaviors that look like a particular type.  And to make it even more difficult, there are an infinite number of expressions of each type, some of which will look nothing like you on the exterior, but are still a unique variation of that particular type.

However, we can’t determine our type by our behaviors.  We really have to dig down into what’s driving those behaviors and ask ourselves what is the underlying motivation behind my behavior?

When our guest, author and CNN political analyst, Kirsten Powers, reached out about her uncertainty in typing herself as a One or an Eight, we had to help her land on something.

Kirsten Powers currently writes for USA today, and is an on-air political analyst at CNN. She appears regularly on Anderson Cooper 360, CNN tonight with Don Lemon, and The Lead with Jake Tapper. Before joining CNN, Kirsten worked at Fox News as a political analyst and contributor, where she appeared regularly with Special Report with Bret Baier, Fox News Sunday, the Kelly File, the O'Reilly Factor. Her latest book, The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech, can be purchased on Amazon and you can find her podcast, co-hosted by Jonathan Merritt at

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • Ways to recognize subtle nuances between Type One and Type Eight

  • How the drive for justice plays out as Type One vs. Type Eight

  • The relational and professional similarities among Type One and Type Eight 

And don’t miss part two’s next week as we dive into some finer distinctions of the One and Eight.







There’s a big difference between how I am relationally and how I am professionally. I’ve kind of been like in my personal life, I want to be happy more than I want to be right. I think in my professional life, I want to be right more than I want to be happy. Just because what I’m trying to be right about, isn’t about me. It’s about systemic racism, it’s about white privilege, it’s about misogyny, it’s about whatever.
— Kirsten Powers, CNN Political Analyst